CHAD SOWASH, FROM CHAD AND CHEESE “ARE WE GOING TO DO NOTHING BUT FIGHT FIRES”
We’re excited to bring you insight from Chad Sowash, from Chad and Cheese who has shared his perspective on staff churn. This is part of our ongoing commitment to delivering top-notch recruitment industry views through collaboration and our insight magazine Untapped.

For those of us in the recruitment industry, trying to match the right people with the right roles is what we do. But what happens when organisations regularly experience candidates leaving soon after starting in position? Untapped takes a look at the impact of staff churn with podcaster and business leader Chad Sowash.

Already a familiar name to many in the industry, Chad is co-host of HR’s most dangerous podcast: Chad & Cheese. Over the length of his 20+ year career, Chad has worked in the HR, Talent Acquisition, and HR Tech space, consulting hundreds of Fortune 500 companies.

As an expert on all things recruitment, and as someone who isn’t afraid to tackle those bigger questions, Chad is the perfect person to give his opinion on the subject of staff churn. We gained his insight…

CHAD SOWASH, FROM CHAD AND CHEESE "ARE WE GOING TO DO NOTHING BUT FIGHT FIRES"

Let’s get started! What is the financial impact of high staff churn on organisations?

“Employee attrition is hurting businesses, especially today. It’s hurting the economy. And I think it’s time that We (the People of HR, Talent Acquisition and Talent Management) understand our golden opportunity to lead businesses in identifying the areas that are negatively impacting the bottom line. HR needs to make the business case to get the budget so they can start to curb churn, and develop talent that’s already been pulled in- house and get better matches for the company itself.   Churn is good: it’s going to happen, it’s natural. But high churn means that you can’t get products and services out the door in good time. And if you can’t serve and retain your customers, you can’t grow that wallet share. So it has a direct impact on the company’s revenue streams and its bottom line.”

Aside from the financial implications, does a high employee churn affect other team members too?

“Once the churn starts, then again you’ve got somebody to your left and to your right that’s leaving. A couple of things happen there. Number one, did they get a better position moving out? Is the grass actually greener? And those are the thoughts that go through the staff’s heads. Not to mention that, while those positions are unfilled, you’re spreading your staff too thin. So not only are they thinking: ‘Is the grass greener?’ but also, ‘Man, I am really overworked here.’”

What might high levels of churn indicate about the company itself?

“It definitely signifies that there are problems within the organisation. And these could be anything from a bad fit, bad management, along with not enabling people to see a career path or a future at that organisation. There are many different prongs to that, but there’s only one sector that really has the opportunity to view and see where all those problems could prospectively be – and that’s human resources, talent acquisition and talent management.”

How can companies ensure they’re attracting the right candidates in the first place?

“Targeting is one way to ensure that those individuals have the right skill sets. There are so many platforms out there today that can help you through different types of assessments to be able to provide more of a rich background of that individual. And then you’ll be able to understand whether the individual is good for the role and the company.   I think it’s the right balance. You need to make sure that you have a nice balanced orchestration of what’s going on because you can bring in the best talent in the world but if they have bad management or can’t see a place to actually progress within the organisation, well you’ve spent a lot of money on the front end just to watch them go out the door. If we put all of our eggs in the recruitment basket and don’t think about retention and attrition and how it impacts the organisation, then it’s only half the equation.”

What would you say is key to reducing staff churn?

“Right out of the gate, the biggest problem that companies have right now is the huge gap between the recruitment and the talent management portion of who’s responsible for actually ensuring that you’re keeping them happy and understanding their needs. It’s incredibly important that you identify who is accountable for the entire talent lifecycle.   Companies are always talking about being fair and inclusive, offering hybrid work, improving the quality of hire… those types of things. Right, we can focus on doing all that. It will help us from a retention standpoint, it will help lessen the churn. We just have to understand the equation to get to where we want.”

Key ways to reduce staff churn

  • For both recruitment and retention, look at the bigger strategic picture.

  • Understand the individual’s expectations, so you can try to meet them.

  • Demonstrate to candidates that there is internal mobility and that there’s a path for them to stay within the organisation.

  • Identify who is responsible and accountable for the entire talent lifecycle.

  • There needs to be emphasis and time spent on making sure your employees are happy.

  • Understand that no organisation exists today without talent being brought to its doors. Try to understand the business and its needs.

What about retaining staff in tricky roles?

“Some roles are definitely going to be much more high churn than others. There are many different factors that come into being able to keep people around, but the hiring process is incredibly helpful to make sure you get a good fit and understand the individual’s expectations, so you can try to meet those expectations. That’s pretty key. And then being able to at least demonstrate that there is internal mobility. These are things that companies really need to execute and then share outcomes

and successes.”

Recruitment has changed so quickly over the years. What are the biggest challenges at the moment?

“Recruiters are overtaxed, they have way too many things on their plate. So anybody who is in leadership and HR and talent acquisition and talent management should be focusing on looking at their process methodologies. Because, more than likely, those are 10-15 years old. They need to rethink and redesign the entire process, not only for the candidate, but also for the great talent that you already have in place: your recruiters. So you have to make the recruiter’s job more enjoyable rather than just sitting around at a keyboard doing data entry. Nobody loves that. Recruiters are people, and they want to have that engagement.”

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